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jasontoddenthusiastt · 2 years ago
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I think fans want Jason to be a good person or be becoming one. To have a character that is well meaning and compassionate but decided murder is ok and to stand against main heroes who’s beliefs and actions go against the people he cares about and wants in his life. It’s confusing for people. People want their fav characters to be happy. But Jason can’t have his family’s support and follow his moral code. He’s cares about people and Gotham, and he’s an asshole who kills. It’s messy. It’s not black and white. I don’t even think Jason cares about being a good person or in the right anymore. I think he cares about what will save the most people instead.
Oh my goodness gracious I’ve been bamboozled
Batman’s definition of Good is not synonymous with absolute good/right no matter how much dc insists it is. Torture, battery/assault, surveillance, those are all condemnable actions too. I won’t get into the exhausting and frankly dumb debate of comic book morality wrt killing because I’ve already reblogged plenty of posts from other people who explained my thoughts on the matter far better than I ever have the patience to sit down and articulate. I also just think the notion that there’s something to be done about fictional characters who kill nazis and senseless murderers is stupid. Jason’s point is that the “main” heroes’ sanitized definition of right has its unaddressed holes and flaws which ultimately result in more preventable fatalities, and that he’ll work to correct those missing spots.
He doesn’t not care about doing what’s right. What he doesn’t care about (at least during his Winick characterization) is whether Batman thinks he’s right or wrong, because he sees the flaws in Batman’s methodology (and since he has a mind of his own). Batman’s methods alone cannot address Arkham’s revolving door and the rogues that come and go through those doors who have no intention (or capability from the doylist pov) of ever changing or undergoing redemption. Jason knows that he’s minimizing the number of preventable deaths by killing his targets, typically Characters Who Simply Do Fucked Up Shit Just Because, Why The Fuck Not?
Secondly, Jason is compassionate … to a fault. That was his fatal flaw. If he wasn’t so hell-bent on saving his potential birth mother he just met from that bomb despite everything she did to him prior, he could have protected himself instead, however slim his odds of survival were. What about his relationship with his other parents? He was a caregiver during his early childhood years for Catherine, until her death. Even mature adults who are financially stable find being a caregiver to a dying parent to be extremely burdensome on their bodies and minds, but he never complained about it or resented Catherine for being unable to care for him. Despite how none of his parents have really been what he needed them to be, he doesn’t blame them for their failings, and even continues to think highly of them (Bruce included).
And post-death? Enter Lost Days. Despite being dead set on plotting his revenge on Bruce, he constantly sidelines this in order to save other victims who are helpless like he once was. His own anger, trauma, and mission don’t remain his priority. (Sound familiar? Something something my own trauma above my son’s, mission above all else, etc.). Why would he waste precious time and risk his own life to do this if he wasn’t empathetic towards these victims or didn’t care about doing the right thing. He is simultaneously horribly traumatized and full of rage, and also incapable of ignoring what’s happening to victims around him (even as he claims that it’s indeed not his priority). And in that same vein, the entire premise of his rebirth outlaws run was that he doesn’t care if the public views him as a villain, an outlaw, so long as he can protect Gotham. And anyway where is this portrayal of him not caring about being in the right anymore. Almost every modern Jason story is about him grappling with where he stands with Bruce/Batman. During the early 2000s was probably the last time he did not care (hello, tentatodd??).
Jason has very evidently been portrayed as a kind and compassionate character. He is also simultaneously a calculated killer who doesn’t hesitate to kill when he deems necessary, and does so without remorse. It’s called being a Complex Character With An Edge™ that as you said, people so often claim to love. However when he fulfills that latter part, that seems to upset people because “killing bad”, and they then try to shave off and round out all his edges and claim he shouldn’t be that angry. In that case I guess you should just stick to liking traditional one-dimensional characters instead of claiming to like Jason but then encouraging his character assassination attempt by dc. Lol.
Lastly, who said anything about the batfam making Jason happy? Just because he’s written nowadays to want acceptance from Bruce (a shoddy attempt at forcing a non-existent nuclear batfamily), doesn’t mean that it’s a sound decision or that it does his character justice. I certainly don’t empathize with the idea that Jason needs the family’s approval or acceptance to be happy. (And anyway he has enough outlets for angst and pain aside from the batfam hello explore his other sources of trauma and do more deep dives into how he thinks when he’s alone). I don’t want them to magically make up and become one big happy family. This is not disney Lol. Besides, there are plenty of stories from dc that have that type of “wholesome” (hate that word utilization) characterization for Jason (Li’l Gotham, Tiny Titans, wfa, and even new stuff like the brave and the bold mini) and that is sufficient imo. Jason fans who are invested in the character deserve accurate, nuanced characterization and well-written stories, whether they be from his robin days (e.g., Batman: The Cult) or as red hood.
#fellas. ya know what else is wholesome? avenging your own death#you can have moments of ‘reconciliation’ or peace but still maintain a strained relationship which is far more realistic#‘he’s an asshole that kills’ and Bruce is an asshole who doesn’t kill. lol.#you can’t claim Jason’s conflicted and disturbed but go on to say Bruce is perfectly sane those two are mutually exclusive#also please realize that a character acting out of anger does not mean they lack compassion.#implying that he doesn’t care about doing the right thing is saying the same thing that person said;#that he doesn’t actually know what he’s doing. that he hasn’t thought through his moral stance.#‘Jason didn’t put any thought into anything he did in utrh he’s just a poor mentally ill lost soul who needs the batfam’s love to heal 💔’#🤝#‘jokers just a poor victim of society 😔 he just needs someone to understand him and maybe one day he’ll heal and realize he’s wrong’#what they both have in common is that they’re misunderstood in opposite directions#the joker doesn’t have a point to prove. there’s no deeper meaning behind what he does. everything is a joke to him.#he isn’t unaware of right vs wrong lmfao#jason todd#dc#asks#my post#and I think you’re implying that he’s utilitarian based on that last part but I don’t think he is#user mintacle posted a few metas regarding that and again they explain it much better than I prob could#anyway it isn’t difficult to understand his character if you know why you like him and you actually read his stories#that post specifically was from someone who clearly said they did not read the comic so. technically they’re on their own wavelength#edit: grammar
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ahalliance · 1 month ago
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i feel like there’s this stereotype in gender studies that only women can be interested in them or only women can want to talk about female historical figures and like . i’m not a woman just because i decided to take a gender studies approach to my essay 😭
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fellhellion · 1 year ago
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seeing miguel takes that make u say aloud HE DOES NOT KNOW HE IS A FICTIONAL CHARACTER IN A STORY WHERE THE PLOT IS CONSTRUCTED TO ILLUSTRATE A CERTAIN POINT/MEANING BRO 😭
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awetistic-things · 2 years ago
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i hate how so many male model’s walks are really bland like show me how those hips swing and fabrics flow stop with this bleh shit
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lunalight11 · 11 months ago
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It’s getting to be time, maybe we should draft the next Declaration of Independence except this time it’ll be about fair wages and meeting the basic needs of every citizen and eradicating the existence of billionaires and ending the funding of wars etc…
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heyyallitssatan · 1 year ago
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Am I really trans?
Am I really nonbinary?
Or do I just hate the definition of woman that’s been presented to me by society so much that I can’t identify with it anymore?
Is there even a difference?
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the-casbah-way · 2 years ago
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i really think if you can’t wrap your head around the concept of anachronism then you should just stay away from ancient history
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metagalacticx · 2 years ago
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i’m actually tired of being pissed off at fandom stuff like i swear im not trying to be annoying on purpose but unfortunately i kinda spent most of my formative years on tumblr, in this fandom, and to see this kind of stuff still so prevalent is disheartening and it sucks i genuinely wish i didn’t care
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m1d-45 · 2 years ago
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Fast makes trash, even gems take a few million years to form, dont rush yourself.
Trust me, if you do that, you'll never be satisfied with it.
-🥘Stew
you are so right actually. stew for motivational speaker 2023
#very long tags watch out#m1d : [chats]#stew🥘 anon#this is me saying i HATE rhinedottir with a BURNING PASSION >:(#part of the reason the albedo piece has stagnated is bc i need to do research on him and ‘’’’subject two’’’’ and i am gonna boil rhine alive#‘ooo what if i took this ancient artifact and dumped my sun on my friend and her daughter’ literally shut up. nobody likes you.#‘he he he i know i created THIS one first but i like THIS one better so THAT one can be subject two :)’ i hate you. genuinely. you are awful#‘what if i told my dragon son to go above ground knowing he would die and lie to him abt it? that’s smart’ ITS NOT GO BACK TO UR CAVE RHINE#many emotions. none of them are good ones.#**talking about genshin impact** why is the lore abt khaenri’ah so vague???#shout out to the beloved soldiers manning the genshin wiki pages. i am giving you an honorary medal of honor#also i understand and register that i can’t rush myself to be creative but like. this is a genuine hobby of mine and i feel gross if i don’t#brain says ‘if you don’t write you’ll be sad :)’ and then just. gives me nothing to write—#nyway. probably needed to hear this. thanks stew; genuinely#also ‘even gems take a few million years to form’ is so true. everything i’ve written i’ve harvested from the ground with my sinner hands#stole from the earth to give to the man; society prospers off the death of the land#< or whatever. that’s not a quote i just just woke up so m feelin cryptic.
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xx-k1tsun3-k1d-xx · 2 years ago
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important info:
YOU CAN TURN IT OFF (links to .gov website about the alerts)
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I think in some places you can’t turn them off but in the UK you should be able to! on iPhone these settings are under notifications all the way down at the very bottom past all the other apps
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I’m not sure about android bc I haven’t used one in a while but from what I remember it should be similar. hope this helps someone cuz emergency alert systems are important but so many people just have no idea this is happening and that’s gonna cause some shit
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IMPORTANT PSA
Please share for UK residents!
The public alert will go off on Sunday 23rd April at 3PM (15:00) BST.
The decision to issue the alert was made against the advice of NGOs who warned this could put vulnerable people in danger. Please spread the message.
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gravityghosts · 8 months ago
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Anyway. Sorry for being a white person with thoughts on racism btw. It all boils down to: my autism makes me not understand social constructs, so I don’t Get Race but I DO understand that when someone says something you’re doing is harmful, the appropriate reaction is to work on Not Doing That and I have thoughts on the fact that. Somehow. Some people LOVE to struggle with that.
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a-nice-egg-offering · 1 year ago
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Being childish about media that has controversial themes or pick and choosing which controversial themes to acknowledge just tells me you’re unintelligent and have bad taste ngl
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16sundayss · 1 year ago
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#I’m sorry I know I’m not a*Tustin but the chronically online a*tistic community pisses me off so much#the behavior that the vast vast majority of nt and many nd people participate in is not stupid and pointless#like the whole point of a disability is that it impairs your ability to function in the larger world#that shit is a you problem not an other people problem#this is most wrt the small talk debate#like I’m sorry that this common and important social ritual is confusing or even distressing for you#but that doesn’t mean to you get to call nt people shallow and stupid for participating in it#especially when tons of nd people do it too#if you really can’t think of a single reason why people do it#I think that’s more of a function of you being self-absorbed and individualistic than something being ‘‘wrong’’ with society#maybe we should be realistic and recognize that something that has been going on for thousands of years#has a specific social function and wasn’t created just to torture you#i’m sorry but every time I see this asinine debate I really have to wonder if these people care about anyone besides themselves#not everything has to be about your deepest feelings and desires all the time#I get bored with small talk sometimes but I still understand that talking like this is good for people#believe it or not you do not always have to be comfortable and stimulated 100% of the time#and I’m adhd so I know how hard that can be#I promise talking about the weather and the latest movie will not kill you#like I said I know I’m not a*tistic but I just cannot stand the internet sometimes#and I know nts can be shitty sometimes#but that’s not a valid excuse for writing off an entire social ritual#I promise most people don’t care if you don’t do small talk#just give short answers and let the other person talk at you#I do that all the time#social interaction is a skill everyone has to practice#it’s not totally inherent and nts fuck up all the time#I’m sorry it’s more difficult for you#and there should be more understanding for how nd people move through the world#but let’s all calm down and use our brains for a second#me
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diltonsstrangescience · 3 months ago
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It gets META???
It’s so frustrating that so many people don’t know or realise that Jughead Jones is actually weird, he is a weirdo, and it’s not just because of that stupid hat - it’s because of the way he mines the real life tragedies of his friends and loved ones for his own personal gain, the fact that he’s died at least 4 times, that there is at minimum 3 of him and you could make an argument for there being 6, that only like 4 of the people he’s ever met have liked him and those 4 people do not include his parents, that he trapped his friends in a perpetual cycle of being 17 because he can’t move on or get over anything, that he was asked to film his high school’s production of Carrie and ended up filming a true crime documentary and that isn’t even half of the weird but true facts about my friend Jughead
#I loooove that actually#‘we’re all characters in a story. we don’t have the ability to make our own decisions.’#that is existentially TERRIFYING#and it’s even worse if he’s the only one aware of this because he’s alone in that understanding#I can’t believe it gets meta that’s amazing#I guess once you’ve had enough weird experiences on the regular that meeting a Rat King seems like par for the course#you have to wonder why your life is Like This#archie comics#riverdale#jughead jones#meta#this makes another interesting contrast to the comics#his hat has always represented how *free* he is. how he doesn’t constrain himself to society’s norms.#he’s weird because he chooses to be. he wears that hat because he likes it and he doesn’t care what other people think of him.#on the show however the hat represents a LACK of autonomy#he calls it ‘stupid.’ he doesn’t want to wear it. but he has no choice because he has no agency in any aspect of his existence.#as in everything the showverse corrupts the hat’s meaning into a twisted dark reflection of itself (truly the darkest timeline)#rather than a symbol of individuality the hat has become a symbol of conformity#no matter how much tv jug wants to be a rebel or unique or anti-authority or whatever#he has no choice but to bend to the whims of his universe because he’s a character and he KNOWS it#both free will and predeterminism can exist at once but not for the same person. understanding of one view means you lose the other#OG jug has free will because he doesn’t *know* he’s a fictional character. all his actions are still his own. he’s weird on his own merits.#because TV jug understands himself to be a character. he no longer has free will. his weirdness is dictated by someone else and he knows it#even this is taken away from him#darkest timeline
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salemlunaa · 15 days ago
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。o○ it’s just meditation ○o。
you’re not getting what you want because you don’t understand that
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no, it’s not magic. no, it hasn’t been unheard of before the days of social media. no, it’s not role play. no, millions of people, some of which don’t even have social media, aren’t coming together to lie. no you’re not a loser because you haven’t shifted yet, you have time. no, you’re not going anywhere. no, your soul isn’t lifting to the higher place of power. no, it’s not a dark place where a genie is in the corner doing your bidding.
it’s just meditation
its a meditative state that you induce: a state of consciousness you reach through meditation. you are just setting intention’s without the barrier of the 3d, that’s it, you aren’t conjuring any thing up with magic, you are setting intention. And when you leave this state of pure consciousness those intentions will come into fruition, and stay that way.
Let’s say your life is a game, and in this game you have a certain body and you want a new one, you want your avatar to change. You’re not conjuring up a new body out of nowhere, you go to the game’s coding space and you moderate things, you set an intention for it to come out in the game. You aren’t leaving the game, you aren’t going to a whole new computer, you aren’t making a new body out of thin air, you’re just setting intention, in this state of total control.
And the only, quite literally the only reason that some of you can’t wrap your heads around how easy it is to induce this is because of society, that’s the only reason, for so long you get told that you must work for all you have and that life isn’t fair and that if something is illogical (by society’s measure) it isn’t real, and i say by society’s measures because inducing a state of consciousness with meditation can be backed up by logic so quickly but people hear the word “manifestation” and decide to write it all off as a joke or unreal.
But let me tell you that resistance, created by what you’ve been taught is the only reason you’re finding it hard, not because the void works for everyone else but you. Not because you keep falling asleep, not because you “just can’t”, it’s because of resistance.
you could have everything you’ve ever dreamt of right now because a meditative state of pure consciousness is all it is, and it’s so easy to induce.
If you go into it with this mindset that you need to put in effort, you will sit there for 20 minutes with your “instant method” wondering why you’re “trying so hard” (immediately no) and nothing is happening. If you go into it with a mindset that when you shift consciousness you get all these symptoms and it’s this whole extravaganza where your soul lifts out of your body, you’re going to be sitting after the 30th minute repeating the same tired affirmations wondering why you just can’t do it.
you don’t need effort, breathe, affirm “I AM” or daydream, or just focus on the darkness of your eyelids and you’re good to go. you’re doing everything right, don’t double check, why would you need to? you’re a god and you’re doing everything right in your reality.
your mind is genuinely an amazing place that makes all these things possible, it’s sounds too good to be true for you and that’s where you go wrong. you don’t have to spend weeks reprogramming your views on pure consciousness, just trust that you are that powerful and you can do those things. because you can, whether you like it or not your mind just is that powerful. No one’s mind is more powerful than someone else’s just because they managed to induce pure consciousness earlier. Your mind is just insanely powerful, that isn’t up for speculation or debunking, it’s just fact.
remember there’s no trial and error for a god, you just do and you just be. you succeed at everything,
go in there with that confidence.
🩰🍵 it’s nothing special, when you get that, you’re good to go.
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meyeheart · 1 year ago
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Being someone who is deeply invested in discussing and analyzing the romance genre, and looks at a wide array of work at all skill levels is so… difficult sometimes.
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